Minutes of a meeting of the Biosecurity Working Party

 

Date:                                    17 August 2022

Time:                                    10.17am

Venue:

Council Chamber

Hawke's Bay Regional Council

159 Dalton Street

NAPIER

 

Present:                              Cr W Foley – Chair

Cr C Lambert

Cr J Taylor

Cr J van Beek

J Simmons

 

 

In Attendance:                 I Maxwell – Group Manager Integrated Catchment Management

L Simmonds – Project Manager - Biosecurity Review

M Mitchell – Team Leader Principal Advisor Biosecurity Biodiversity

P Martin – Senior Governance Advisor

Submitters as named in Minutes

 


1.         Welcome/Karakia /Apologies/Notices

The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting - Charles Lambert opened with a karakia.

 

BWP4/22

Resolution

That apologies for absence from Councillor Foss, Peter Eden and Dr. Roger Maaka be accepted.

van Beek/Taylor

CARRIED

 

2.         Conflict of Interest declarations

There were no conflicts of interest declared.

 

3.         Confirmation of minutes of the Biosecurity Working Party meeting held on 16 June 2022

BWP5/22

Resolution

Minutes of the Biosecurity Working Party meeting held on Thursday, 16 June 2022, a copy having been circulated prior to the meeting, were taken as read and confirmed as a true and correct record.

van Beek/Taylor

CARRIED

 

4.

Submissions received and staff responses to the proposed change to the Hawke's Bay Regional Pest Management Plan (RPMP)

 

Lauren Simmonds gave a brief overview of the proposed RPMP plan change, advising that there had been three late submissions received.  

BWP6/22

Resolutions

1.      That the Biosecurity Working Party receives and considers the written submissions received on the Proposed Possum Control Area Partial Regional Pest Management Plan Review.

2.      That the Biosecurity Working Party waives the submissions closing deadline of 31 July 2022 to allow inclusion of the three submissions received after that date from:

2.1.     Troy Duncan (submission 152)

2.2.     Anyika Scotland (submission 153)

2.3.     Charlotte Pedersen (submission 154).

3.    That the Biosecurity Working Party receives and notes the staff responses to the submission themes.

van Beek/Foley

CARRIED

 

5.

Hearing process for the proposed changes to the Hawke's Bay Regional Pest Management Plan

 

The item was taken as read. The Biosecurity Working Party commenced hearing verbal submissions:

·    Jerry Greer (submission 138). Long term farmer based in the Argyle area who supports the proposed changes. Over some 33 years of farming - has witnessed possum levels at epidemic proportions through to relative control and is noticing a resurgence in possum numbers over the past two years. Some landowners are not aware of their pest control obligations. Contractors know what they are doing and should be utilised. Would like HBRC to consider bringing smaller lifestyle blocks (less than four hectares) into the PCA scheme.  

·    Tim Gilbertson (submission 131). Supports the proposed changes. Other pests including feral cats are a problem – why not control all pests at the same time? DoC does not undertake possum control and should be brought into the PCA scheme.

·     Paul Harris (submission 78). Farmer from the Tutira area. OSPRI provide him with an indemnity when undertaking possum control for TB reduction purposes. HBRC need to perform better/more effectively, particularly using more modern tools. Urban based people are now active in possum control which is most welcome. Targeted control is ideal. All contractor model is supported but rates should not increase as a result.  

·    Jake Bowcock (submission 151). Possum contractor and horticulturalist based in Esk Valley area. Unsure of support for the planned changes- a good idea but the whole region will need contractors. His current PCA customers could be lost to another (larger) contractor. Ground based pest control is less effective than targeted methods - can result in pockets of possums in hard to reach spots. HBRC should enforce is current rules – target those not undertaking PCA controls. Possums are not a problem in horticultural areas, other pests are. Contractors should be able to upscale to meet demand.

·    Paul Robottom (submission 118). Not present – no written statement provided

·   Gaius (Gus) Smith (submission 24).   Written statement provided and read out by Lauren Simmonds. Concerned about costs,  health and safety matters and lifestyle block holders. Trapping, shooting and bait stations have been effective on our property – don’t need the extra costs that are likely to follow this change. Contractor health and safety – they don’t know our property and we would need to guide them around to ensure their safety. Lifestyle block owners should be involved in PCA – contractor costs should be met by all landowners, not matter how small.

·  Shane Hyde (submission 102). Written statement provided and read out by Lauren Simmonds. Concerned about the ability of contractors to deliver a pest control programme that is controlled from a central point (HBRC). Re-infestation can occur rapidly. Need to use modern technology including cyanide poisoning from bait stations.

·   Curt Zant (submission 49). Written statement provided and read out by Lauren Simmonds. Private property rights are again being eroded – taking management rights away from owners. State control does not work and rate costs will be too high. We are controlling possums well on our property and need to be left alone in this regard.

·    Neil Aitken (submission 144). Tutira based farmer for 30 years - has had TB on his farm which has now taken six years to bring under control. Possum numbers fluctuate - forestry owners need to do possum control. One rule (for property access) should apply to all property owners. PCA monitoring system needs to be more individualised – possums are attracted to certain trees/areas at particular times of the year. Supports contractors doing pest control rather than HBRC staff. Farmers should be farming, not doing possum control which they currently do at no costs to HBRC. Rating system should be different for grassland holdings versus forestry where possum control is not being done regularly or consistently. Canopy/tree cover should be guide for the rating system.

The meeting adjourned at 11.30am and reconvened at 12.40pm.

 

The Biosecurity Working Party recommenced hearing verbal submissions.

·    Gary Bowcock (late submission -will be recorded as submission 156). Pest control contractor for 51 years. Supports the change - will provide pest control contractors with good long term/sustainable contracts and income - a ‘one large contractor’ model would not work. Exotic forestry owners need to be under the same rules /rating level as other landowners - little control is being carried out in forestry blocks. DoC should somehow be contributing to the PCA scheme as their current 500m incursion zone is not helping matters. There should be greater co-operation between OSPRI and HBRC. Aerial poisoning is likely to be required- drones could be used in hard to reach places.

·    Rhea Dasent on behalf of Federated Farmers (submission 142). Support HBRC taking back control of possum control – currently control is erratic and having one entity controlling PCA is ideal. Want forestry and urban populations to pay their share to improve biodiversity – everybody benefits. Suggest a targeted rate so that all rate payers are aware of their contribution to biodiversity – perhaps a flat rate for all HBRC ratepayers topped up with a ‘land use’ targeted rate. Change should at least be cost neutral – rural rates have risen enough in recent times. Farmers do a good job of possum control but they know that others do not.

·    James Hewitt (submission 93). Strongly oppose the change. Farmers do not want outside contractors coming onto their land. HBRC should be doing more monitoring and enforcement to deal with those that are not complying with the PCA system - HBRC will still need to monitor contractors’ performance.

·    John Macphee (submission 107). Farmer from 30km southwest of Hastings. PCA scheme is working well - does not support change to contractor model. Farmers should be doing the work with HBRC doing more regular monitoring. PCA audit period should be reduced/more monitoring required.

·   At the next meeting of the Biosecurity Working Party (deliberations on 6 September 2022)  - staff will provide a limited rates impact assessment including general and targeted rates examples. These examples will utilise the current rating structure - providing a detailed future rating picture is not possible at this stage.

·   Having been highlighted as a risk during the hearings – submissions from forestry interests will need to be considered carefully.

BWP7/22

Resolutions

1.          That the Biosecurity Working party waives the submissions closing deadline of 31 July 2022 to allow a late submission from Gary Bowcock

2.          That the Biosecurity Working Party receives and considers the verbal submissions on the proposed changes to the Hawke’s Bay Regional Pest Management Plan.

Foley/van Beek

CARRIED

Charles Lambert led a closing karakia.

Closure:

There being no further business the Chairman declared the meeting closed at 1.49pm on Wednesday 17 August 2022.

 

Signed as a true and correct record.

 

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